I don’t completely understand what is meant by “People who have indigenous or ethnic genders may identify as trans even if their birth assignment was of that gender.” Could you maybe clarify? It’s on page 3.

fierceawakening:

acemindbreaker:

qesurvey:

Although to my knowledge, it isn’t used as a birth assignment anymore, and possibly never was (I’m afraid I’m one of those Lapsed Jews you hear so much about), I’m going to use the Jewish gender אַנְדְּרוֹגִינוֹס, translated as “intersex,” “hermaphrodite,” or “androgynos,” depending on who you talk to.

Imagine that when Ali was born, their doctor looked at them, and made the pronouncement that rather than “male” or “female,” Ali was indeed an androgyne.

If Ali grows up to be a woman, then she is a simple case of “a gender differing from that assigned to her at birth.” The same is true if he grows up to be a man.

However, if Ali grows up and ultimately continues to identify as an androgyne, then their gender is the same one that they were assigned at birth.

If you feel that Ali should still be able to identify as trans in that circumstance, you would check the box besides “people with indigenous or ethnic genders,” which I suppose should rightfully say something like “people who were given a birth assignment other than male or female,” to be quite honest, though I’m not sure what would happen to the data if I tried to change was it say now. Undoubtedly something very frustrating, as I seem to remember that being a problem last year.

That reminds me of two-spirit. From what I understand, two-spirit isn’t an identity that you claim for yourself, like most gender & sexuality identities, but rather one that is given by an elder.

I’ve even heard of a child who, at birth, an 2S elder took one look at them and said “this child is two-spirit”. (I don’t on what basis they decided this.) Last I heard, the child seemed to be comfortable with that identity. Which tells me that while it seems to be uncommon, it is possible for a Native child to be ‘assigned two-spirit at birth’.

I guess another example might be kids like Baby Storm, whose parents refused to reveal their genital configuration and decided to use gender neutral terms for their child. But this is less based on the idea of assigning the child a gender other than male or female, and more on refusing to assign any gender.

This is one of the reasons “cis means you agree with the gender you were assigned at birth” confuses me.

I feel like I know what people are TRYING to say when they call someone cis, but it’s not quite what that definition is ACTUALLY saying.

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