I never see anyone talking about how kids can abuse adults though.
Growing up I saw a lot of adult teachers get bullied by students and it sucked. They would purposely push them to their breaking point until they exploded, yelled, cursed, threw desks, and the ones who didn’t have that kind of reaction would just quit or end up fired because the kids would start rumors. One was because our new math teacher was effeminate so the guys thought “obviously this guy is gay and he’s after our dicks” and if he was ever nice to a male student (which… he was nice and friendly with EVERYONE and was the best teacher we’d had that year) they would start whispering behind me, “yo, look at that, did you see that? He’s flirting with his male students, that’s nasty” and so they made trouble for him.
My mother worked at a Discovery Zone type place when I was little and she would come home and break down crying because groups of little boys would call her names, call her stupid her whole shift.
I had friends in childhood who absolutely abused their parents. They were relentless and mean and hacked them into submission and it made for a lot of awkward moments when I would hang with them, because I couldn’t do anything since… they were my abuser too.
Just because you’re a minor doesn’t mean knives you throw are not sharp and won’t hit someone. The fact that so many kids on this site use their age as a weapon, as a way to say “but nothing I do has any impact because I have no social power” is SCARY and we need to try to make people aware of this kind of stuff from a young age because most people who are like that don’t really realize it and they need guidance and rehabilitation so the cycle can stop. Because those people grow up and have kids and do it to their kids and they don’t learn that it’s not normal or okay, that they cannot deny reality by controlling the people around them.
But sometimes it isn’t always that way, some of those parents were so nice and kind and I considered like family, and they just had absolute evil villains for kids.
Check in with yourselves, guys. Especially right now. There’s a lot of upsetting stuff being shoved in our faces all the time and it makes it hard not to get tunnel vision when our emotions get out of control, especially with the pressure to perform by a lot of social circles on tumblr. And if you’re young and a lot of this is new, pace yourself, you’re learning, and you need to be open to the idea of learning more and know that us being adults doesn’t mean we’re just out of touch boring old farts who don’t know anything. We’ve lived things and we have experience and when we say to you that it’s not okay to tell people who like things you do not like to kill themselves, we’re not “apologists”… we’re the survivors too.
yo this is really important
my piano/choir teacher in 6th grade was only around 20-23 whenever she came to our school, and she only stayed for 2 years because all the kids were so awful. one time she told me that me and a few other of my friends were the only ones who hadn’t said a bad word about her the whole time.
in 4th grade, we got an awesome music teacher. he was in his late 20’s at the time, really chill and easygoing (we were in elementary school). some of the kids would just slowly drive him off the edge until one day he ended up throwing pens across the room out of frustration and anger. everybody was either scared of him or laughed at him, and it kinda made it worse. he left 2 years later and teaches a civilized and nice group of kids now.
kids really can abuse adults. I’ve seen it happen a lot and it’s sad and heartbreaking and overall awful to see because so many people brush it off as “kids being kids.”
In 7th grade or so I had the most delightful Maths/Science teacher (the two were taught by the same guy) and he was always super nice. Like he adored teaching, he brought us snacks sometimes and like really wanted us to do well.
By 8th grade he was a changed man. We had young neo-nazis starting shit. We had kids screaming and throwing shit at him. We had knife fights and I’m 90% certain I remember him straight up being forced into a position where he had to wrestle one of my more violent classmates to the floor. My class had actually driven this calm, cool, great guy (he couldn’t’ve been more than 27 at the time) to actually break down crying in class. As far as I heard he was gone by the time I entered grade 9.
I remember lots of my classmates mocking my math teacher because of her accent, when I was a freshman. She was from Syria, in a mexican school. Little pieces of shit were always imitating her accent and mocking her from getting certain words wrong.
I saw her about four years later and she looked so tired of everything, less cheerful and with a tougher attitude from the beginning. Fortunately she still talks to me calmly and smiling, but it’s awful to know she’s always anxious around thw kids she teaches.
In seventh grade I had a teacher named Ms. Burns. It was only her third year of teaching, and it was her first year of teaching middle school. And the class I had her for?
My fellow classmates were fucking awful to Ms. Burns. They talked over her when she was trying to teach, they made fun of her appearance (said she looked like man and called her a ‘tranny’, or “It Burns” instead of Ms. Burns), and when a few months into the school year, she broke down and screamed at the top of her lungs at the class before sitting down at her desk and crying, they considered it a triumph and laughed about it for weeks.
Being a kid doesn’t exempt you from being a piece of shit, and just because, on the whole, adults have more power than minors doesn’t mean that minors get a free pass on being purposefully cruel to adults. Some of you on this website really need to learn this.
Discipline your goddamn kids.
Seriously doubling down on the last part because this behavior doesn’t form in a fucking vacuum.
Back in secondary school, I had a fantastic science teacher and he happened to be gay. I admired him because he was actually out, at a time when it was super rare to see that sort of thing. He was a really sweet, bearish dude and helped me feel more comfortable in my own skin, being a young queer myself.
Well, one day some of the homophobic kids in our class decided to start rumours about him being a pedo (because, to them, all gays were pedophiles) and told their equally homophobic parents about it. There were calls from “concerned parents” about the teacher and his “inappropriate behaviour” and eventually, after over a year of daily complaints, he was asked to leave, not because he had actually done anything, but because the school didn’t want to “look bad”.
So yeah, a bunch of 14 year olds ran to their parents and got him fired for being gay. Over 15 years later and I am still pissed.
Some kids learn pretty quickly to weaponize their youth.
Fandom policing communities have turned this into an art form, shaping and rewarding [fellow] adolescents (and younger) who intentionally put themselves in online adult spaces and publicly implode: destroying the adult space, the adults in that space, and shredding the conscience & mental well-being of the minor that’s being encouraged to turn themselves into an emotional bomb.
It’s not a coincidence (although definitely not the only cases possible, and certainly not the only setting I was unfortunate enough to witness) that so many examples are from school. It’s taken for granted that a teacher has authority and power over the student, but if you tune out of that black&white thinking for a moment you’ll realize that teachers nowadays are not even in the position to defend themselves against their students, because those concerned parents will have them fired in a heartbeat.
Seriously? You’re suggesting that students as a group have power over teachers because they have the backing of concerned parents?
What about kids whose parents don’t back them up?
For that matter, what about the many situations where both parents and child agree on a problem with a teacher but it doesn’t feed into established societal prejudice against the teacher, or feeds into established societal prejudice against the child or parents?
Or for that matter, the fact that every single example in this thread featured kids who were united against a teacher, save for a few outliers. A single child who doesn’t have the backing of their peers can do very little against a teacher, while the teacher can do a tremendous amount against them.
And the fact that teachers choose to become teachers and choose where to apply for work, and can leave their job if they choose to. Meanwhile, their students for the most part have no choice about whether and where to go to school – unless they have the backing of their parents.
I agree that in some exceptional circumstances, teachers can be bullied by students. But it’s far easier for a teacher to bully students than the other way around, and the consequences are far more severe for students bullied by teachers than for teachers bullied by students.